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Author Topic: How to relay to multiple org bots?  (Read 13779 times)

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Offline Snarfblatt

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2007, 11:21:25 pm »
Well if anyone is interested I'm getting there.. but boy is budabot different. I'm pretty much going down the road you described.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2007, 04:40:56 pm »
Not to hijack the thread but do you still need a hub bot to relay between 2 different org bots if you are hosting the bots for both orgs?

This question is based upon using only BeBot bots.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2007, 06:08:36 pm »
Easiest way is still using IRC. In case of bad support between bots and multiple owners, just stick all bots into the same IRC channel.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2007, 06:51:03 pm »
No you don't need a Hub.. you can just set the Relay to each of the other bots and then use Tells. Seems to work good for me.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2007, 09:09:18 pm »
For two bots tells will work ok.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2008, 09:20:31 pm »
For two bots tells will work ok.

i got even 2 bebots on 2 guilds.
i would like to relay them both, but i realy dont know how.. :/
i tried it trough !settings relay but doesnt seems to work... but maybe i just did it wrong..

would be very thankful for any kind of help :)

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 08:59:26 pm »
really the easiest way to relay several guild is using IRC

just type

!settings irc
then make the settings

e.g. irc-server ... use irc.funcom.com ... works perfekt

than whenn all settings are done ... make the same by the bot u will release ... than you just have to connect to irc

!irc connect

tadaaaaaaa you can read all what is written in the irc :D ... i think is the best and easiest way to relay several guild-chats ...

greets Drizz

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2009, 08:27:05 am »
Hello all!

Since I'm also in the progress of linking several guild- and raidbots together, I experienced all the problems I never thought there would be. Even reading the guide it didn't work and I have to admit I didn't find it very helpful.
Now that all is working properly, I do hereby volunteer to write a better, more complete one which will describe how to setup guild-bots and relay-bot in detail. Well... or I will just edit the current one if nobody takes offence.
Do you feel there's a need to rewrite the mentioned guide?

Greetings

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2009, 04:56:56 pm »
I have no problem with a rewrite as some of the information is dated, especially concerning some of the newer aspects of relay (namely DB relay). I am currently running 11 bots.

5 of which are in a relay, a relay bot hub, a raid bot,  and 4 different org bots.

once the slave module is available again, this will probably add two more "bot" toons. And there are talks in the works for adding two more orgs to the relay as well.

I could cut out a number of bots if there was a way of modifying online to offer arguments of org only/alliance, as some of the bots are redundant just for the separate online listings.

Oh, would like to add, I have used the IRC as a relay hub when I actually had a guild on AoC. That also worked well, but will admit, a lot of it was test-break-fix-test-success attempts.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2009, 05:06:20 pm by clashbot »

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2009, 01:16:06 pm »
Hello Clashbot!

Now the only question remaining is: will you do the rewrite or do you want me to do it myself? There are certain fields in which I have no expertise. I have, for example, never used shared online-lists or a database as a relay and don't know if they would still work as described. I can try that, though it might take me some time to do all the testing needed for all kinds of setups.
I can very well start with describing the setup which I use (which is what most people will most likely use) and how to do it and other people can contribute and complete the guide.
What sayest thou, Clashbot?

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #25 on: April 09, 2009, 01:17:55 pm »
lol, I'll let you do the writing, and I can play guinea pig at the expense of my orgs..hehe

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #26 on: April 09, 2009, 01:41:04 pm »
\o/ Hooray! I'll see what I can come up with ;)

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2009, 10:48:30 am »
Hi all!

As promised, I rewrote the kinde outdated documentation. Feel free to drop me a note with comments and/or suggestions on how to improve. Enjoy!

- Pigtail

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2009, 01:23:16 pm »
That's a really excellent write-up, Pigtail!

Some small comments:
  • Even for tells I'd use a security group to give the relay bots access rights, as otherwise the roster updates may whipe the relaybots from the member list.
  • Besides possible security risks IRC does not guarantee the order of delivery of any messages. It might happen that answers are relayed before questions are asked.
  • Strictly speaking you could use an org bot to work as relay hub. But this falls definitly under be sure to only do this if you absolutely know what you are doing!
  • You could even skip the Logon.php for relay hubs, as well as a couple of core/ modules. But the overhead created by those is negligible.
  • The Bot core assumes that all prefixes are one letter only, otherwise command handling will be broken.

Reading your guide I think we should add a way to notify other bots in a relay about changes in the online status with a specific command, like we do for timers. That way you won't have to do any complicated secondary setups just for this purpose.

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Re: How to relay to multiple org bots?
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2009, 02:54:37 pm »
Thanks for reading and commenting, Alreadythere!
I edited the guide according to your comments, and yes, I also think that a way to synchronize the online-lists would be very nice. Though it looks like it wouldn't be too hard to do. Just add an optional parameter do status_change() (to specify the bot), let the bot announce joins/leaves to the relay-group and act according to such announces. Well... and leaving/joining the relay-bot's private group should also trigger a sync ... oh boy! More work than I thought ;D. Any plans on this?

- Pigtail

 

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